Comments on: 3 Ways Parents Can Sabotage the Recruiting Process http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/ The college athletic recruiting process can be extremely difficult. Finding the right athletic scholarship offer is extremely idfficult. NCSA specializes in help student-athletes find the right college fit. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:19:14 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: T. Major http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-2912 T. Major Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:16:16 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-2912 My son is a senior on a talent loaded, successful new program that is now on its 3rd coach in its 7 year existence. Despite playing in State Championships 3 of past 4 years and winning in 2005 these talented players get almost no attention from colleges. In 2007 they graduated 9 seniors (5 of them selected to All-State team), as of a week following the end of season none of them had a single scholarship offer! The head coach did nothing for these kids. An assistant manged to get these kids noticed and 7 of them ended up going to colleges that didn't offer football scholarships! This season we knew we had to take control and get our kids recognized. Despite sending a bunch of our kids to nationally recognized combines and posting very good performances and times, absolutely none of our kids are on anyones radar???? When you look up rivals.com none of our talented kids are ranked! I research national players ranking and these players are right there talent wise. Over the past 4 seasons I can't count how many 4-5 star players that these boys play and end up shutting down and posting equal or better all around numbers! The new head coach threw the camera man out that we used to purchase game film weekly and told us not to worry because he would provide us with film every week. The season has ended and we have not received any film! So much for sending film to colleges throughout season. He kept telling us he would provide us with film. So now we're trying and get our seniors what's left of football scholarships by calling colleges (and having no luck speaking to anyone). As of now most of the D1 scholarships have been offered. So we will most likely have to take what we can get if our kids are even that fortunate.. And no, most of us can't afford another expense, $3000 or so, to sign up with a company that can get our kids noticed! My son is a senior on a talent loaded, successful new program that is now on its 3rd coach in its 7 year existence. Despite playing in State Championships 3 of past 4 years and winning in 2005 these talented players get almost no attention from colleges. In 2007 they graduated 9 seniors (5 of them selected to All-State team), as of a week following the end of season none of them had a single scholarship offer! The head coach did nothing for these kids. An assistant manged to get these kids noticed and 7 of them ended up going to colleges that didn’t offer football scholarships!

This season we knew we had to take control and get our kids recognized. Despite sending a bunch of our kids to nationally recognized combines and posting very good performances and times, absolutely none of our kids are on anyones radar???? When you look up rivals.com none of our talented kids are ranked! I research national players ranking and these players are right there talent wise. Over the past 4 seasons I can’t count how many 4-5 star players that these boys play and end up shutting down and posting equal or better all around numbers! The new head coach threw the camera man out that we used to purchase game film weekly and told us not to worry because he would provide us with film every week. The season has ended and we have not received any film! So much for sending film to colleges throughout season. He kept telling us he would provide us with film.

So now we’re trying and get our seniors what’s left of football scholarships by calling colleges (and having no luck speaking to anyone). As of now most of the D1 scholarships have been offered. So we will most likely have to take what we can get if our kids are even that fortunate.. And no, most of us can’t afford another expense, $3000 or so, to sign up with a company that can get our kids noticed!

]]> By: P-Ville Coach http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-559 P-Ville Coach Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:41:14 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-559 I agree to a point but I have coached at and I know of alot of High School organizations that do not take a serious enough approach to helping these kids get recruited. Every lettering player should have the support from the school and coaches that include films, websites, and cold calling to colleges. It amazes me today that many schools still don't do this. I agree to a point but I have coached at and I know of alot of High School organizations that do not take a serious enough approach to helping these kids get recruited. Every lettering player should have the support from the school and coaches that include films, websites, and cold calling to colleges. It amazes me today that many schools still don’t do this.

]]> By: Bill http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-126 Bill Fri, 09 May 2008 14:38:27 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-126 We are fortunate to be able to say our son was heavily recruited as an NCSA student athlete. He selected Univ of Penn (IVY LEAGUE) and has excelled! Every athlete needs to ask themselves, would I go to this school IF i couldnt play my sport... Having gone through the process, I can tell you this, parents MUST be involved however, be careful not to dominate the interview and "process" .This is a point where your child needs to learn to represent themselves, remember they are attending the school not you.!As for dealing with coaches, ( We dealt with many!) they have a tough job, so dont be suprised if you feel a little bit like you are dealing with a used car salesmen. The truth is they only have so many dollars to deal with and our trying to put a successful team on the field that represents the school. NCSA is definately the way to go. Remember that your child is a STUDENT ATHLETE, not the other way around... One last point, All Ivy League Schools are DI, there are no D3 schools in the Ancient 8 as they are called. We are fortunate to be able to say our son was heavily recruited as an NCSA student athlete. He selected Univ of Penn (IVY LEAGUE) and has excelled! Every athlete needs to ask themselves, would I go to this school IF i couldnt play my sport…
Having gone through the process, I can tell you this, parents MUST be involved however, be careful not to dominate the interview and “process” .This is a point where your child needs to learn to represent themselves, remember they are attending the school not you.!As for dealing with coaches, ( We dealt with many!) they have a tough job, so dont be suprised if you feel a little bit like you are dealing with a used car salesmen. The truth is they only have so many dollars to deal with and our trying to put a successful team on the field that represents the school. NCSA is definately the way to go. Remember that your child is a STUDENT ATHLETE, not the other way around…
One last point, All Ivy League Schools are DI, there are no D3 schools in the Ancient 8 as they are called.

]]> By: Frank Osinski http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-70 Frank Osinski Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:59:26 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-70 Here is my opinion: We can not expect a highschool coach to be the promoter of our kids. However, the coaching community is an established group and some of the coaches have been in the business a long time. Many know the system far better than we do. The coaches could assist with letting us know where or who is running the larger tournaments which will get the kids some exposure and experience. I have found that many tournaments are not posted on the web and unless you know who to contact the opportunity is missed. Please post any suggestions or comment. Here is my opinion: We can not expect a highschool coach to be the promoter of our kids. However, the coaching community is an established group and some of the coaches have been in the business a long time. Many know the system far better than we do. The coaches could assist with letting us know where or who is running the larger tournaments which will get the kids some exposure and experience. I have found that many tournaments are not posted on the web and unless you know who to contact the opportunity is missed. Please post any suggestions or comment.

]]> By: Mrs.Yevette L Anthony http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-63 Mrs.Yevette L Anthony Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:34:12 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-63 Good article. I have not played an active role in my son's recruiting process. I would like to, but I do not have any idea what is required of myself or his father. It would be great if you could do an article on this. So far I feel that all I provide is transportation. Thank you. Good article. I have not played an active role in my son’s recruiting process. I would like to, but I do not have any idea what is required of myself or his father. It would be great if you could do an article on this. So far I feel that all I provide is transportation. Thank you.

]]> By: Charlie Behne http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-60 Charlie Behne Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:39:45 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-60 Granted, the student/athlete should drive the conversation and the majority of the communication. However, make sure you as parents have determined what your expectations will be for assistance through scholarships and how closely that matches up with what your suitors have available before you begin serious talks and scheduling visits all over the country. It doesn't need to be specific but both sides will benefit if you can get to a percentage so that neither of you are disappointed. Also, be sure to confirm visits by continuous communication, right up until the week of the scheduled visit. Things happen, an assistant leaves, someone else commits, etc. and you could get stuck with the cost of travel. Most schools will be up front as long as you are in your talks with them. Granted, the student/athlete should drive the conversation and the majority of the communication. However, make sure you as parents have determined what your expectations will be for assistance through scholarships and how closely that matches up with what your suitors have available before you begin serious talks and scheduling visits all over the country. It doesn’t need to be specific but both sides will benefit if you can get to a percentage so that neither of you are disappointed. Also, be sure to confirm visits by continuous communication, right up until the week of the scheduled visit. Things happen, an assistant leaves, someone else commits, etc. and you could get stuck with the cost of travel. Most schools will be up front as long as you are in your talks with them.

]]> By: shelly echols http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-53 shelly echols Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:14:34 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-53 thanks for the information i think when a parent is asking all the questions that is them just being a parent although i see how that can become a concern to a coach when you have an over barring way too over protective parent. the info was really helpful!!! thanks for the information i think when a parent is asking all the questions that is them just being a parent although i see how that can become a concern to a coach when you have an over barring way too over protective parent. the info was really helpful!!!

]]> By: Mario Finneli http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Mario Finneli Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:59:52 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-52 Many people wrote many good things about parent's involvement. William stated it very well in his post. The point I would like to add is this: Universities proved service for money, that is usually paid by parents. In many ways, the Parents are the Customers. Not only that Parents should look after the interest of their children - they also have the right to expect certain level of service, which includes Coaching. Of course there is a balance, and of course a child should be allowed to strike rapport with the Coach on her or his own. However, the Coaches must allow Parents to ask questions and be involved in a decision process. The fact that there is an increase in parent's involvement, as mentioned in the article, may mean that the Coaches should consider change in their own attitude and understand that the Parent is their Customer and therefore must be a part of the process. Honestly, if a Coach does not want me as a Parent to be involved in the process (in a balanced way), I don't want my kid to be involved with that Coach. Many people wrote many good things about parent’s involvement. William stated it very well in his post. The point I would like to add is this: Universities proved service for money, that is usually paid by parents. In many ways, the Parents are the Customers. Not only that Parents should look after the interest of their children – they also have the right to expect certain level of service, which includes Coaching. Of course there is a balance, and of course a child should be allowed to strike rapport with the Coach on her or his own. However, the Coaches must allow Parents to ask questions and be involved in a decision process. The fact that there is an increase in parent’s involvement, as mentioned in the article, may mean that the Coaches should consider change in their own attitude and understand that the Parent is their Customer and therefore must be a part of the process. Honestly, if a Coach does not want me as a Parent to be involved in the process (in a balanced way), I don’t want my kid to be involved with that Coach.

]]> By: Catherine http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Catherine Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:11:38 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-50 agreed , yes there are helicopter parents but I view them as a result of the whole recruitment process that elevates the athlete to unbelievable levels not yet obtained on the college level. Everyone should do their homework in the process. From a parents side check out the coach with current players and parents as they have lived with that coach for the previous year, talk with club coaches as they have had previous interaction with the coaches and can tell you if they are honorable in their offrers . As a parent of two college level players , things are not always as they appear and some of the best offers are at the d-3 level where there are great educational opportunities. The best advice we received in all the recruitment process was let your child pick the college where they want to pursue their educational opportunities first and approach that school about athletic options. It really should be about education first and athletics second as many of these athletes may only play for a year or two but their educational opportunities are for a lifetime. agreed , yes there are helicopter parents but I view them as a result of the whole recruitment process that elevates the athlete to unbelievable levels not yet obtained on the college level. Everyone should do their homework in the process. From a parents side check out the coach with current players and parents as they have lived with that coach for the previous year, talk with club coaches as they have had previous interaction with the coaches and can tell you if they are honorable in their offrers . As a parent of two college level players , things are not always as they appear and some of the best offers are at the d-3 level where there are great educational opportunities. The best advice we received in all the recruitment process was let your child pick the college where they want to pursue their educational opportunities first and approach that school about athletic options. It really should be about education first and athletics second as many of these athletes may only play for a year or two but their educational opportunities are for a lifetime.

]]> By: KF21WR http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/comment-page-1/#comment-49 KF21WR Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:22:23 +0000 http://blog.ncsasports.org/2008/04/17/3-ways-parents-can-sabotage-the-recruiting-process/#comment-49 How much does it cost to join? How much does it cost to join?

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